conchshell
05-11 08:49 PM
Its amazing how this community reacts to these set backs. For last few months I have been consistently seeing people with EB-3 complaining and pleading to the community to come together and join hands to eliminate the country cap. But most of the words fell of dumb ears. Most of the EB-2 members did read the pleads and requests, but did not bother to take and concrete actions or even comment on it.
Now that the EB-2 is regrogressed to 2000, suddenly all the EB-2 members jump in. What happened, friends?
This is plain selfishness - on the part for few lil stratured people. They should be ashamed of themselves or even to comment on these forums and come up with ideas.
You got it just right. Dear friend, this is the truth for immigrant community. Everyone here stands for their own GC, how can we expect others to fight for you. So as and when USCIS hurts different categories, people come here and form a loosely coupled organization.
Now that the EB-2 is regrogressed to 2000, suddenly all the EB-2 members jump in. What happened, friends?
This is plain selfishness - on the part for few lil stratured people. They should be ashamed of themselves or even to comment on these forums and come up with ideas.
You got it just right. Dear friend, this is the truth for immigrant community. Everyone here stands for their own GC, how can we expect others to fight for you. So as and when USCIS hurts different categories, people come here and form a loosely coupled organization.
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spulapa
02-02 01:12 PM
[QUOTE=shreekhand;2310147]Nobody is holding them back and that is the very reason they are planning to go back... got it ?
Your rant in the post of all things, especially about the caste system seems like the half baked knowledge of a westerner bloating and carrying the caste "issue" to stratospheric levels!
I don't from what area in India exposed you to your experiences, but apart from the ridiculous reservations and quota system, there have been no caste related issues that I or my family faced while in western India. Be it working with people from all castes, making friends with them or really helping the neglected. This was the case with my neighbors or any relatives.
This shows how ignorant you are about the most prevailing and backward situation in INDIA. Unfortunately the above comments show you like the cat drinking the milk closing eyes thinking nobody is watching her.
Do you even know why the quota system was introduced. it is a different thing that it is not being utilized the way it had to be put into use. You are just from western part of India don't speak as though you are from western part of the world. I guess you don't watch the news where they speak about the various atrocities done on the backward class by the forward class. I feel sorry for your ignorance that is all I can do. When possible go to any NGO social service people and ask about caste system and they will give you ample stories which might shatter your belief. What I agreed with the fellow IV member was on a different issue and I acknowledge the fact that things are wrong in each part of the world and every country has its own share of issues. Just like nobody is perfect not every place is perfect. But not acknowledging the fact that something is so widely prevalent in India just shows how far as an individual you are away from reality.
Peace.
Your rant in the post of all things, especially about the caste system seems like the half baked knowledge of a westerner bloating and carrying the caste "issue" to stratospheric levels!
I don't from what area in India exposed you to your experiences, but apart from the ridiculous reservations and quota system, there have been no caste related issues that I or my family faced while in western India. Be it working with people from all castes, making friends with them or really helping the neglected. This was the case with my neighbors or any relatives.
This shows how ignorant you are about the most prevailing and backward situation in INDIA. Unfortunately the above comments show you like the cat drinking the milk closing eyes thinking nobody is watching her.
Do you even know why the quota system was introduced. it is a different thing that it is not being utilized the way it had to be put into use. You are just from western part of India don't speak as though you are from western part of the world. I guess you don't watch the news where they speak about the various atrocities done on the backward class by the forward class. I feel sorry for your ignorance that is all I can do. When possible go to any NGO social service people and ask about caste system and they will give you ample stories which might shatter your belief. What I agreed with the fellow IV member was on a different issue and I acknowledge the fact that things are wrong in each part of the world and every country has its own share of issues. Just like nobody is perfect not every place is perfect. But not acknowledging the fact that something is so widely prevalent in India just shows how far as an individual you are away from reality.
Peace.
dealsnet
04-22 07:34 AM
We the employment based immigrant community to do some thing to help his family. May be by contributions, and help his family to get his benefits from the company he worked, any insurance, IRA, 401K etc.....
Hiis spouse may not have the ability do these things from a foreign country. Some body from IV must contact his family now based in Sweden. This is my suggestion.
Guys,
I knew Mehul and his family. They migrated to Sweden late January and Mehul passed away peacefully in his sleep on March 2, 2008
Admins, please close/archive this thread. It's painful
Hiis spouse may not have the ability do these things from a foreign country. Some body from IV must contact his family now based in Sweden. This is my suggestion.
Guys,
I knew Mehul and his family. They migrated to Sweden late January and Mehul passed away peacefully in his sleep on March 2, 2008
Admins, please close/archive this thread. It's painful
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pitha
07-07 08:43 PM
she said "But we're prepared to talk to people about what happened here."
hope that means they are willing to talk about giving EAD. If we get EAD all the lawsuits will be withdrawn. The law does not say AOS applications should not be accepted when there are no visa numbers available, the law only says AOS cannot be approved when visa numbers are not available. USCIS internal regulations says they will not accept AOS applications when priority date is not current. by now its quite apparent that USCIS has broken a lot of there own internal regulations just to make sure the visa numbers are used up before july 2 2007. Then can easily accomodate the EAD for july filers. It all depends upon the pressure exerted on USCIS and DOS
hope that means they are willing to talk about giving EAD. If we get EAD all the lawsuits will be withdrawn. The law does not say AOS applications should not be accepted when there are no visa numbers available, the law only says AOS cannot be approved when visa numbers are not available. USCIS internal regulations says they will not accept AOS applications when priority date is not current. by now its quite apparent that USCIS has broken a lot of there own internal regulations just to make sure the visa numbers are used up before july 2 2007. Then can easily accomodate the EAD for july filers. It all depends upon the pressure exerted on USCIS and DOS
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hebbar77
05-08 08:10 PM
I guess affected class should make an impact visible enough for people to realize they cant let us down.
Example : keeping all our savings and checking cash in our country banks. This will not provide free money to local banks.
Lets say
500k people pulling out 25k each. Thats a big sum. Its just investing our money in our country bcos we DONT expect GCs!
Also buy airtickets from broker from your home country which will benefit your country getting the sales tax!... so on.
I have nothing against anyone. I am just saying how we can assert our importance.
Example : keeping all our savings and checking cash in our country banks. This will not provide free money to local banks.
Lets say
500k people pulling out 25k each. Thats a big sum. Its just investing our money in our country bcos we DONT expect GCs!
Also buy airtickets from broker from your home country which will benefit your country getting the sales tax!... so on.
I have nothing against anyone. I am just saying how we can assert our importance.
GCStatus
09-17 12:36 PM
We are making great progress on this and glad to see tonnes of positive responses. For the people who are viewing this thread first time, please send your name, e-mail, ph number and the amount you are willing to contribute ( in case of a lawsuit ) to man-woman-and-gc who is graciously collecting information for us and adding them in the below spreadsheet. Next steps on the way.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...8fcKLTQ&hl=en#
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...8fcKLTQ&hl=en#
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nc14
09-11 02:26 PM
It will be the right thing to do as people will always have a reason for not contributing. I doubt we can ever swing the thick skinned folks to contribute.
I understand that one reason for having the free site is for us to have numbers. But, how do these numbers help when most of them are not good for much.
I think it is about time for IV to think and make $25/month minimum fee for accessing this site. IV needs money to lobby to sort GC mess out. At the same time we need serious people ready to volunteer and donate. That is the only way out. We do not need people discussing SRK and Vonage on this site. We might reduce website hits by doing this but at least we will have ust have serious members who actually want to volunteer and work for IV.
I understand that one reason for having the free site is for us to have numbers. But, how do these numbers help when most of them are not good for much.
I think it is about time for IV to think and make $25/month minimum fee for accessing this site. IV needs money to lobby to sort GC mess out. At the same time we need serious people ready to volunteer and donate. That is the only way out. We do not need people discussing SRK and Vonage on this site. We might reduce website hits by doing this but at least we will have ust have serious members who actually want to volunteer and work for IV.
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sweet_jungle
11-07 01:13 PM
Thanks much.
What is the email address that you sent this to?
prakash.@dhs.gov
What is the email address that you sent this to?
prakash.@dhs.gov
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desi3933
06-26 10:06 AM
The way i understand this, not all companies are bound by the EOE laws.
Certain conditions have to be met to be considered an EOE.
Not every employer is an equal opp employer, so those guys can hire whoever they want.
Besides hiring folks on h1b, etc could add to costs for employers. So they choose not to employ such folks.
>> not all companies are bound by the EOE laws.
Incorrect
All US Employers (that have 15 or more employees) must follow labor laws. EOE applies to all of them.
Read more for yourself
Federal Laws Prohibiting Job Discrimination: Questions And Answers (http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/qanda.html)
However, this is for lawful authorized workers only. In other words, one can not force employer to file for H-1B or any other work visa. At the end of H-1B petition date, employer can not be asked to extend H-1B. That is employer's choice.
But, once hired, H-1B employee can not be discriminated with other workers for equal opportunities in training, job promotions, and work conditions.
________________________
Not a legal advice.
US citizen of Indian origin
Certain conditions have to be met to be considered an EOE.
Not every employer is an equal opp employer, so those guys can hire whoever they want.
Besides hiring folks on h1b, etc could add to costs for employers. So they choose not to employ such folks.
>> not all companies are bound by the EOE laws.
Incorrect
All US Employers (that have 15 or more employees) must follow labor laws. EOE applies to all of them.
Read more for yourself
Federal Laws Prohibiting Job Discrimination: Questions And Answers (http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/qanda.html)
However, this is for lawful authorized workers only. In other words, one can not force employer to file for H-1B or any other work visa. At the end of H-1B petition date, employer can not be asked to extend H-1B. That is employer's choice.
But, once hired, H-1B employee can not be discriminated with other workers for equal opportunities in training, job promotions, and work conditions.
________________________
Not a legal advice.
US citizen of Indian origin
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sss9i
05-23 07:56 AM
I sent to Mr.SessionsMr.Graham and Mrs.Clinton
Dear Senator:
Good morning~
Subject: Treating the currently backlogged legal skilled immigrants at parity with undocumented immigrants and family-based applicants in the Immigration Reform bill S. 1348.
Immigration Voice (www.immigrationvoice.org) represents the interest of 500,000 legal skilled immigrants in the United States on the path to green cards who have been stuck in enormous backlogs and delays in immigration process.
The career growth, job mobility and qualify of life of these half a million legal skilled immigrants is subverted by the bill in its current form.
1. Section 501(b) reduces the number of green cards to legal skilled immigrants from the current 140,000/year to 90,000/year and diverts the major portion of those green cards to future low-skills guest workers under the Y visa program. Instead of increasing that number to reduce the backlogs this section take a step backwards and would exacerbate the backlogs. On the other hand, 503(f)(2) of this act would allocate an estimated 11 million green cards over a time frame of 5 years – 2.2 million a year – to undocumented immigrants. Immigration Voice requests congress to treat legal skilled immigrants at parity with undocumented immigrants and increase the number of green cards to at least 250,000 for 5 years for currently backlogged applicants defined under Sec. 502(d)(2) in order to reduce to current backlog before the untested points based merit system is functional.
2. Immigration Voice requests congress to waive per-country ceilings on backlogged petitions to be processed under Sec. 502(d)(2) in order to make the backlog reduction more efficient. The bill provides a very similar waiver from per-country ceilings to family based pending petitions in section 508(b).
3. Immigration Voice requests congress to allow legal skilled immigrants to file for adjustment of status for those applicants who have been certified by DOL to be doing jobs no US citizen is willing qualified or able to do. This would be at parity with provisions for undocumented immigrants who would qualify for instant work permit (probationary card) that allows them to work without employer sponsor and without department of labor’s certification by simply by registering.
Immigration Voice strongly opposes the bill S 1348 in its current form and requests congress to amend this bill and treat the legal skilled immigrants at parity with undocumented immigrants, future guest-workers and pending family-based applicants.
Thanks,
Dr.Gaddipati
Dear Senator:
Good morning~
Subject: Treating the currently backlogged legal skilled immigrants at parity with undocumented immigrants and family-based applicants in the Immigration Reform bill S. 1348.
Immigration Voice (www.immigrationvoice.org) represents the interest of 500,000 legal skilled immigrants in the United States on the path to green cards who have been stuck in enormous backlogs and delays in immigration process.
The career growth, job mobility and qualify of life of these half a million legal skilled immigrants is subverted by the bill in its current form.
1. Section 501(b) reduces the number of green cards to legal skilled immigrants from the current 140,000/year to 90,000/year and diverts the major portion of those green cards to future low-skills guest workers under the Y visa program. Instead of increasing that number to reduce the backlogs this section take a step backwards and would exacerbate the backlogs. On the other hand, 503(f)(2) of this act would allocate an estimated 11 million green cards over a time frame of 5 years – 2.2 million a year – to undocumented immigrants. Immigration Voice requests congress to treat legal skilled immigrants at parity with undocumented immigrants and increase the number of green cards to at least 250,000 for 5 years for currently backlogged applicants defined under Sec. 502(d)(2) in order to reduce to current backlog before the untested points based merit system is functional.
2. Immigration Voice requests congress to waive per-country ceilings on backlogged petitions to be processed under Sec. 502(d)(2) in order to make the backlog reduction more efficient. The bill provides a very similar waiver from per-country ceilings to family based pending petitions in section 508(b).
3. Immigration Voice requests congress to allow legal skilled immigrants to file for adjustment of status for those applicants who have been certified by DOL to be doing jobs no US citizen is willing qualified or able to do. This would be at parity with provisions for undocumented immigrants who would qualify for instant work permit (probationary card) that allows them to work without employer sponsor and without department of labor’s certification by simply by registering.
Immigration Voice strongly opposes the bill S 1348 in its current form and requests congress to amend this bill and treat the legal skilled immigrants at parity with undocumented immigrants, future guest-workers and pending family-based applicants.
Thanks,
Dr.Gaddipati
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rsharma
09-24 09:52 AM
It is legal per INA to do that.. So your letters and your friends letters are just gutted in the trash right away.. :p
I agree.. Remember labor substitution was also legal once upon a time. However when people reported the facts to USCIS the labor substitution was banned..
But buy then major damage was done..
Therefore EB2 guys wake up till there is time.
I agree.. Remember labor substitution was also legal once upon a time. However when people reported the facts to USCIS the labor substitution was banned..
But buy then major damage was done..
Therefore EB2 guys wake up till there is time.
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dtekkedil
07-05 01:47 PM
This is a neat idea to draw worthwhile attention which at the same time won't cause any hatred. I'm sure most of us would like to act upon this.
Can one of core members talk to a florist and workout some kind of arrangement where if we call them and give a code and payment they would process the order with a pre-set message and delivery address. I'm sure we will have a large participation if we make the process simple for the mass.
Also make this a front page message.
Core members cannot "officially" endorse this. So they will not. If we want to do this then we are doing this on our own!
Can one of core members talk to a florist and workout some kind of arrangement where if we call them and give a code and payment they would process the order with a pre-set message and delivery address. I'm sure we will have a large participation if we make the process simple for the mass.
Also make this a front page message.
Core members cannot "officially" endorse this. So they will not. If we want to do this then we are doing this on our own!
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sathishav
02-22 10:02 AM
@india_usa
100% correct. I guess its human. If you did not file for 485 in Jul 07, people want to file when PD is not current. For people who filed and are waiting, want the backlog cleared. People who have GC are "worried" about getting citizenship :). People who just came in, are worried about they PERM/140 approvals.
@peacocklover
GC is all about luck. They should cancel the entire GC process and make it a "lottery" as that is what it is.
I think the substituters were the smart ones (though a few of them were burned during the process). I guess, people like you and I choose to follow the safe route.
your PD says its 2006. I know people with PD in 2004 or 2005 and their Labor/PERM applicaiton was not approved before the July 07 floodgate. They are still waiting and I do feel sorry for them.
100% correct. I guess its human. If you did not file for 485 in Jul 07, people want to file when PD is not current. For people who filed and are waiting, want the backlog cleared. People who have GC are "worried" about getting citizenship :). People who just came in, are worried about they PERM/140 approvals.
@peacocklover
GC is all about luck. They should cancel the entire GC process and make it a "lottery" as that is what it is.
I think the substituters were the smart ones (though a few of them were burned during the process). I guess, people like you and I choose to follow the safe route.
your PD says its 2006. I know people with PD in 2004 or 2005 and their Labor/PERM applicaiton was not approved before the July 07 floodgate. They are still waiting and I do feel sorry for them.
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gomirage
06-25 03:30 PM
Do we have any other choice than waiting to start all over (another 2 to 3 years ?)
http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/atoz/article_1192606.php
http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/atoz/article_1192606.php
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dtekkedil
07-10 05:33 PM
Now that we have generated interest and made more people aware of IV. The next thing is to do is to gather support for rallies.
For the next few days we need to spread the word about this campaign and get more people to join us. Spread the word around about the San Jose rally!
We have to make sure that this flower drive is especially talked about in and around San Jose.
For the next few days we need to spread the word about this campaign and get more people to join us. Spread the word around about the San Jose rally!
We have to make sure that this flower drive is especially talked about in and around San Jose.
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deepak
08-31 02:32 PM
USCIS should seperate North Indians and South Indians - We are soooo very different anyways ..... Different language - different look - different food ..... That way all of us North Indians will get our GC sooner :D
Awesome!! Do you mind if fair South Indians join in with you? USCIS should also make a definite decision on where the boundary between north and south India are drawn. That way Maharashtrians who are thought to be North Indians by people from Kerala and thought to be south Indians by people from Punjab, will finally know if they will get their GC in time. Hey, since USCIS is going to use stereotypes anyway, how about we base the EB category, based on our stereotypical knowledge of relative intelligence between the "races"?
As the person before me said, get well soon, and thanks for the entertainment :)
Awesome!! Do you mind if fair South Indians join in with you? USCIS should also make a definite decision on where the boundary between north and south India are drawn. That way Maharashtrians who are thought to be North Indians by people from Kerala and thought to be south Indians by people from Punjab, will finally know if they will get their GC in time. Hey, since USCIS is going to use stereotypes anyway, how about we base the EB category, based on our stereotypical knowledge of relative intelligence between the "races"?
As the person before me said, get well soon, and thanks for the entertainment :)
amitjoey
07-09 06:02 PM
Which is fine but the order by ground shipping will probably reach a week later.
Oh!!, That's no good. Anyways, lots of florists have same day delivery for real flowers. So lets stick with real flowers, If I had a choice, I would send them fake flowers.
Oh!!, That's no good. Anyways, lots of florists have same day delivery for real flowers. So lets stick with real flowers, If I had a choice, I would send them fake flowers.
logiclife
06-20 12:38 AM
I would like to clarify a few things possibly misunderstood lately.
Firstly, IV core and all volunteers are fully aware and DO acknowledge that CIR, as we know today, is headed to its grave. Unless something new happens of political significance, all experts have ruled of reform before elections in November.
Secondly, IV core never has and never will bet on one bill. We have said that before and we say that again. CIR is not the only bill we are looking at for passing reforms that provide relief to legal hi-skills immigrants. We will look at the next opportunity to introduce our provisions in and are not going to sit around and wait for elections to come an go. And that means any bill. PACE, SKIL, immigration related, competitiveness related - ANYTHING.
Thirdly, no matter with IV or QGA does, or anybody does, a bill related to immigration is not going to be tabled on the House or Senate floor BEFORE CIR is officially dead. As long as CIR is even slightly in the picture, an immigration legislation will not be scheduled on Senate or House. That simply is not going to happen even if we hire 100 lobbyists and send million webfaxes. CIR has to go away first before Bill Frist or John Boehner puts another immigration bill on the schedule.
However, if CIR dies, we and other organizations like us will spare no time in making efforts to put something on schedule - from house side or senate side.
Firstly, IV core and all volunteers are fully aware and DO acknowledge that CIR, as we know today, is headed to its grave. Unless something new happens of political significance, all experts have ruled of reform before elections in November.
Secondly, IV core never has and never will bet on one bill. We have said that before and we say that again. CIR is not the only bill we are looking at for passing reforms that provide relief to legal hi-skills immigrants. We will look at the next opportunity to introduce our provisions in and are not going to sit around and wait for elections to come an go. And that means any bill. PACE, SKIL, immigration related, competitiveness related - ANYTHING.
Thirdly, no matter with IV or QGA does, or anybody does, a bill related to immigration is not going to be tabled on the House or Senate floor BEFORE CIR is officially dead. As long as CIR is even slightly in the picture, an immigration legislation will not be scheduled on Senate or House. That simply is not going to happen even if we hire 100 lobbyists and send million webfaxes. CIR has to go away first before Bill Frist or John Boehner puts another immigration bill on the schedule.
However, if CIR dies, we and other organizations like us will spare no time in making efforts to put something on schedule - from house side or senate side.
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